Monday, 12 November 2007

Peruvian docs arrived in US

My mom got all my documents, so now she's just got to take them to the notary and get everything apostillised and send everything to our lawyer in Romania. Seems like we're almost there.

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Saturday, 3 November 2007

Moved to Korea

I've accepted a position in Korea. It looks like I'll be here for six months. I really miss living in Asia.

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Friday, 26 October 2007

Problems with the Romanian embassy in Lima

The Embassy here in Peru won't let me in their doors. I guess that according to them, the embassy is only for citizens. However, I got my marriage cert legalised here in Peru and will be sending all the paperwork to my mom to get it legalised and then Apostillised in the States, then everything goes to Romania to my lawyer.

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Saturday, 29 September 2007

Problems with the Chicago consulate

The consulate people are not very helpful and will not accept my mom's paperwork. So the only alternative would be to go to Romania in person and possibly spend months doing the red tape.

However, we just hired a lawyer and things seem to be going well. We're putting the Hague Apostile on everything which mean Romania has no choice but to accept it. There's no Hague Convention here in Peru, so I'm sending everythign to my mom to get it done in the States. Getting a police report here is no big deal, it woudl only take a couple days.

My mother is a Romanian national and citizen, they just refuse to recognise this.


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Saturday, 15 September 2007

Contract signed and sealed

Well, I did it. I signed the contract and posted it to my lawyer. Also sent the first payment of fees.

Good news, I contacted the embassy and they do translations and legalisations all there, so I won't have to be running all around Lima.

My mom's halfway through with the documents there in the USA, only needs the Apostille, then I have to get a police report and get an Apostille for that. Then we'll have all the docs we need to start the process. Which hopefully won't take longer than six months or a year at most.

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Sunday, 9 September 2007

Will be signing contract with lawyer

I'll be signing the contract with my lawyer this week. I'm excited to get the ball rolling. All these years we've been getting the runaround with the Chicago Consulate. It seems like things will finally start falling into place.

My head's spinning looking at all the documents that I have to get. It's not that much, but there's lots of certifications, notarisations, and authentications. Plus, I'm in Peru, but the majority of the documents are in the US, so I'm having my mom help me.

Seems like my passport will be a problem. I have to get it translated from English to Romanian, I just don't know if I can find a translator here in Peru. i have a feeling that I'll have to go from English to Spanish to Romanian. But maybe the Romanian Embassy will know someone who can go directly from English to Romanian.

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Friday, 31 August 2007

Translations

We need to get our documents translated in order to start the process. First we have to go to an official translator. Fortunately Romania is part of the Hague Convention, so we only have to send it to the Sec of State after we get it translated. For countries outside of the Hague Convention, you have to also send it to Washington to get it authenticated.

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Saturday, 11 August 2007

Found a lawyer

After three years of trying to get through the Chicago consulate's red tape and contacting various lawyers both in Romania and in the USA, I think we've finally found someone competent to help us. Someone from this board knows a lawyer who could possibily help us. So maybe the end is in sight and I'll be getting citizenship soon. My mom has said that she doesn't want citizenship, but I think she should get it just in case my brothers and sister want it. My mom doesn't want it because she doesn't want to go to the Chicago Consulate anymore than she has too. My brothers and sister konw that I'm trying to get it, but haven't expressed any interest in getting it.

Hopefully in about two weeks we should know if the lawyer will except our case. Fingers crossed, I'll be Romanian before Christmas.

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Wednesday, 8 August 2007

Got corrected docs

We got my mom's correct marriage cert and my correct birth cert. Now all the names match. I hope the consulate is happy.

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Tuesday, 7 August 2007

Contacting lawyers

We've sent emails to two lawyers and are waiting to hear back from them. While going through old papers, I'm beginning to think that maybe my grandfather didn't have a passport. The exit papers that we found are covered with immigration stamps for Romania and the USA. So maybe he used that instead. Thanks to everyone who's sent PMs and emails. Hopefully this will work.

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Friday, 15 June 2007

Update on family's citizenship

This is from the Romanian Constitution from The Romanian embassy in Israel.
Art. 28. – Losing the Romanian citizenship by accepting the disclaiming has no effect on the citizenship of the spouse and underage children.

However, if both parents obtain the acceptance for disclaiming the Romanian citizenship, and the underage child lives with them abroad or leaves the country together with them, the underage child loses the Romanian citizenship at the same time with his parents, and if the latter lost their citizenship at different dates, on the last of these dates. The underage child that leaves the country, in order to live abroad, after both of his parents have lost their citizenship, also loses his Romanian citizenship when he leaves the country.

However, there seems to be a loophole. If citizenship is acquired by birth, such as in my mom's case, it can be revoked, only renounced.

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This is from EICEE.

(1) Romanian citizenship can be acquired, retained or lost as provided for by the organic law.
(2) Romanian citizenship cannot be withdrawn if acquired by birth.

This is from UNHCR:
Article 5 (section 2) of the Constitution of Romania that was adopted by the Romanian Parliament on 21 November 1991 indicates that Romanian nationality acquired by birth cannot be taken away from anyone (Monitorul Oficial 21 Nov. 1991). The UNHCR also has an English copy of Romanian citizenship laws.

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Tuesday, 27 March 2007

FAQ: What's the problem with your mom's names?

Question
You said that you have to register your mom's marriage with RO and change her name on your birth cert because she left out one of her middle names. I have to do the same thing for my daughter because her middle name appears on one document and not another. The Romanian consulate said they are very strict about the names being exact.

Answer
Yes, they're very strict. Her name is just a little different. Basically an Americanised version of her Romanian name. They're been really strict with my mom. She changed her name, the arrangement of it and then got married. So we have to go throught the whole process.

Basically, they're denying that she's still a citizen, even though she is. She never gave it up and besides, the Romanian constitution says my mother can't give up Romanian citizenship, becuase it was required by birth. We're thinking about getting a lawyer.

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So according to Romanian law,
This is from EICEE. The Romanian embassy in Israel also has lots of information.

(1) Romanian citizenship can be acquired, retained or lost as provided for by the organic law.
(2) Romanian citizenship cannot be withdrawn if acquired by birth.

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Monday, 26 March 2007

Update on my mom's name change on US docs

Just got confirmation about the name changes. It will take seven months from the date they sent the letter, so hopefully in September we'll have the name change on her US marriage cert and my US birth cert.

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Thursday, 1 February 2007

FAQ: Can I get Romanian citizenship through my children?

Question
Hi Naturegirl,
My daughter can become a Romanian citizen immediately through her father. Can I become a citizen or resident through her?

Answer
I don't think so, but you can through marriage. You have to live there for three years though and pass tests in Romanian history, Romanian culture, and the Romanian language.

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Tuesday, 9 January 2007

FAQ: Do you need to speak Romanian to become a citizen?

Question
I heard there were talks about not granting citizenship to foreigners anymore unless they can speak Romanian, or prove that they intend to learn it, is that true?

Answer
If a foreigner is with no blood ties to Romania is trying to gain citizenship, then yes. If an ex-Romanian citizen is trying to regain citizenship, then yes. If a child of a Romanian citizens is trying to get citizenship, then I don't think knowledge of Romanian is necessary.

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Changing my mom's marriage cert and my birth cert

We just filled out the forms to change my mother's marriage certificate and my birth certificate. Bad news is that it can take up to seven months.

Good news is that we found my grandfather's birth certificate, marriage license and exit papers, which prove that he's Romanian, therefore my mother is and so am I.

EDIT: February 2011, we got confirmation from the Ministry of Internal Affairs that my grandfather gave up Romanian citizenship. In order for the government to get him out of Romania, he had to give up citizenship. The process was started while he was in Romania and completed a couple months after he arrived in the US.

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